talking to myself, diversity & comics
-What’s the goal? Why does it matter?
-Gotta define it to explain it. So: my working definition of what it means to introduce (or elevate, or support, or whatever whatever, the verb varies with context) diversity to comics is having a wealth of storytellers of various backgrounds working in an industry that is telling a wide variety of stories.
-Diversity cannot be a code word for “stories written by or about everyone but white dudes.” “Diverse writers/artists” is a dog whistle. Better to say exactly what you mean.
-Diversity cannot be a marketing buzz word, because diversity is more normal than the lack of it.
-How can you effectively introduce diversity to an industry that has indulged in decades of the same things?
-“If you build it, they will come,” only goes so far. “If you build it, and put it in front of people who are open to it, they will come” tends to be more accurate.
-So who do you have to convince? The same people buying comics.
-It’s not that simple. Comics has a lot of middlemen.
-The mainstream structure: creators work through publishers who list through Diamond or another distributor to sell to retailers who then sell to customers.
-Another structure: creators work on their own and sell directly to retailers (consignment)
-Another other structure: creators work on their own and sell directly to readers (Gumroad, Patreon, Kickstarter, etc)
-The only thing that’s consistent is the creator and reader, but that relationship is both the toughest row to hoe and the easiest. If you aren’t plugged in, you won’t know that you can hit up X’s Gumroad, or maybe even that X exists. If you are plugged in, kicking someone three dollars via Paypal is nothing.
-Then, theoretically, the parties to be convinced: publishers and retailers, two (generally) for-profit enterprises. Creators gotta make a profit, too, but creators do what creators do. You go to creators to see their work, you go to publishers to see a variety of works, and you go to retailers to see an even greater variety of works.
-Publishers have to make a profit to keep books on the shelves. Retailers have to make a profit for the same. So the diversity conversation, by its very nature as a change in the industry, has to take into account economics and capitalism in addition to everything else.
-So for diversity in comics to work, it needs to be either a parallel system to what we have, or integrated into what we have in a way that makes money for the creators, publishers, and retailers.
-The domination of Marvel and DC in the mainstream comics industry warps the conversation. They dominate both the idea of comics and the business of comics, and they largely publish comics in one big genre: superheroes.
-Superheroes, at this point, often hinge on legacy and longevity. New capes have trouble taking off, old capes are always going to be the “real” ones to a certain subset of fans, and making your new capes differently colored often leads to a situation where your new character ends up making way for the old character when they have to come back—often demonstrating the implicit superiority of a white character.
-I don’t know how to square this circle. I don’t know how to measure the strides from those companies in any real way. Table it. Someone else can solve it.
-Publishers and retailers, turning a profit. The dominant route now is old faces writing new types. That covers representation on the page, but not behind it.
-True diversity isn’t me figuring out what you are and writing about it, no matter how deft or resonant my take is. True diversity is me getting to do you and you getting to do you and both of us being treated the same.
-How do you get diversity behind the page? You need creators that publishers trust to either turn a profit or fill some other need, and you need creators that retailers trust to not leave them with eighty copies sitting in the back room.
-Without diversity behind the page, you’re left with a group of people who have never experienced X playing on the lived experiences of people who have for the profit of themselves or someone else. That warps perception. So it is fine to an extent, but it isn’t good enough in the long-term.
-So you need a diverse group of people sitting behind the art boards, too.
-How do you do that in an industry that’s used to a specific type of comic?
-I don’t know.
-YA and the book market appear to be doing gangbusters when it comes to welcoming other voices, at least from the outside looking in.
-What’s the difference? Different publishers, different stores, different target audiences.
-I’m part of this industry. I’ve been reading comics from it since I was a kid. I’m not trying to hear that it’s a lost cause. But at the same time, you gotta meet people where they live if you expect anything to work.
-Bite your tongue and table the frustration: a parallel structure. But is that separate but equal? “We can sell black comics here, but not here?” Does that matter, as long as they sell?
-What is the goal? Is it to change an industry and bring everyone along, or to do what needs to be done and what happens, happens?
-Progress is incremental, happening in fits and starts that are then heralded as basically the Second Coming or the first foot touching ground off the first boat at Normandy. John the Baptists like to throw all their eggs in one basket, making characters into de facto exemplars for their culture, even though literally no one in real life is that.
-Diversity’s gotta include the good and the bad, otherwise what’s even the point? But, as an example, white people don’t go “Oh, I hope this guy’s not white” when they hear about crime on the news.
-Stereotypes and negative perceptions are a real problem, and that’s hard to address when you have a max of two black characters in your story. There are more black exemplars in comics than I’ve met in my whole life and I’m pretty sure I’ve been black for most of it.
-So to have the good and the bad, you need a lot of both, that way no one character has to shoulder the burdens of an entire group of people. A groundswell.
-And again: how do you make that happen? Inching along won’t make it happen, because nobody wants to be the first to bust out a high-profile black criminal character.
-Drifting into story issues that are best left to storytellers. Rein it back in: comics gotta sell and be printed, so how do you convince retailers and publishers to back you?
-A break-out hit can spark a fad, but fads don’t guarantee a transformation into the New Normal. Then you’re just an outlier, an Exceptional Negro, so to speak.
-A wealth of work can show and prove, but getting a wealth of work out there in front of the people who want or need it isn’t as easy as just willing it to be so.
-So maybe vast and sweeping immediate change isn’t feasible. Then what?
-Is it an investment in the future? “If you build it, the next generation will fix your ramshackle construction and make it into something real?”
-If that’s it, how do you shore up that foundation?
-If you have hiring power, you can make it a focus. Rooney Rule it.
-If you don’t have hiring power…I come back around to “If you build it, and tell people about it.” So that’s marketing, messaging.
-Which brings me back to Marvel & DC, and to a lesser extent “nerd culture.” How do you stand out in a flood? Existing isn’t enough.
-I dunno. Marvel and DC’s gravity is enormous. Reach outside the current target audience toward people who don’t care about the minutia of nerd culture?
-Is that separate-but-equal again or just basic business? Isn’t it a matter of selling to people who aren’t interested vs selling to people who might be interested?
-So, new audience: how do you effectively reach them?
-I don’t know.
-But: to stick to the comics industry we have, a push for diversity has to result in something that makes money for the middlemen and supports the creators.
-Arguments for diversity have to take into account more than just representation, because focusing on representation alone can easily result in a third-party shucking and jiving on my account. “Yessuh, massa! Them po-lice shol is bad! Ayuk!”
-Accordingly, diversity has to allow for people to tell their own stories in addition to their stories being told by others. It’s a balance thing, not a “only black people can talk about black stuff” thing.
-You need people behind the scenes working, finding the creators for the job, pushing them the way they deserve to be pushed. You need to make the economics work. You need to make sure people know about it.
-You spread the word by sharing your platform and bigging others up as best you can. You pray that what you’re saying strikes someone who needs to see it, or is the millionth straw that breaks the camel’s back for someone with power.
-So I guess I need to be patient? Bleah.
-I forgot to explain why it matters. I take it as read, and need to do better there.
Quick #copic and #montanamarkers sketch of Cyclops from the Up Up & Away grand opening tonight!
Hey I’m Chris! Here’s the piece I got from Tony today at the brand new Up Up & Away in Blue Ash. It’s been fantastic working at the shop and helping Kendall and his crew get it up and running. I can’t wait for more of the best comics shopping experience in the midwest!
#inkpulpdoodleoftheday #cyclops commission for @cincycomiccon #xmen #mutant #marvel #marvelcomics
Side by side.
I drew an 80′s New mutants commission (and for fan art)
Working on one last variant cover for #hiphopfamilytree number 1, monthly comic.
Blood knights from 8house Arclight #2 by Marian (Churchland) Written by me (Brandon Graham) Marian draws sooo gooood. Published by Image comics.
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MARKET MAVEN: Is THE WICKED + THE DIVINE in trouble? - CAPELESSCRUSADER.ORG
To save you clicking through, the answer is “No.”
The slightly longer answer is “While I generally object to jumping on a singular writer when talking about a larger issue which I see all over industry commentary columns, if you think that you can look at WicDiv’s sales and think they’re in any way in trouble, you have no business writing an industry commentary column. You simply don’t know enough to be doing this, and in doing so, you are hurting people’s perspective of the industry.”
Jamie and I eye-rolled when we saw the above article, but realised it may be a good opportunity to talk about this stuff, as it happens a lot, for a lot of books. I meant to write it back in may, but I got distracted by working myself to death. However, I appear to have a few minutes spare, and as there’s a lot of comics economics talk going around in the last few days, it strikes me as a good time to throw this into the mix.
I can tell you, this wasn’t a failure or a cause of concern. Every single creator envied Kirkman and Allard.
In the same month, Invincible’s sales were estimated as 13,584.
Maybe that was a cause for concern? It’s basically 2/3rds of Walking Dead. It’s well beneath the line Marvel would cancel a book.
No, it wasn’t a cause for concern. Almost every Image Creator would have also killed for those numbers.
Walking Dead then wasn’t what Walking Dead is now, but it was still the book which set the conversation in terms of what Indie books were capable of. That Kirkman had his name on two books with that level of success made him the go-to example of how to indie comics.
No, I don’t mean “hey, you get to do your own thing and make some money.” I mean “you are doing financially better than you would by doing a WFH book for the big two.”
I’ll give you some really basic rule of thumbs for indie comic commentary:
Anything selling stably over 10k in single issues is a cause for celebration and joy. The creators are almost certainly extremely happy.
If you’re selling over (ooh) 12k, you’re probably making more than either of the big two would pay you, unless you’re one of the very biggest names.
If you’re selling anything near 20k, you probably have to buy drinks for your friends.
And in a real way, if Phonogram settled around 6k back in 2006, I suspect Jamie and I would have settled into doing it for another 40 or 50 issues.
There’s all manner of exceptions to the above, but if you look at the charts and bear that in mind, you’ll be closer to how the industry looks at those numbers.
None of the above includes digital sales.
None of the above include trades. You throw trades in, and you change everything entirely. A cursory look at hit indie comic numbers reveals that their trades sell much more than Marvel/DC main universe trades, with a few exceptions (There’s a reason why Matt and David’s Hawkeye was such a big thing, and it wasn’t its monthly sales). Let’s bold another sentence.
You cannot do an industry commentary column on indie books without including the impact of trades.
There are books that are selling well beneath 10k and are doing just fine.
All the three sentences I bolded in a block were about making money from the single issues. They do not include any other revenue source, such as trades. If the single issues break even and you make your money in trades, that’s also fine. With a few exceptions, big two comics primarily make their money in single issues. That is one reason why their single issue sales matter so much more.
There’s other reasons why single issue sales need to be higher…
- Overheads. They have more editors staff, etc. What a creator owned book makes, generally speaking, a creator owned book keeps. The overheads are lower.
- Profit targets. Books don’t just need to be profitable. They need to be profitable to a level which has been corporately pre-determined, in a set period of time.
- A relatively low selling book is taking the place of a book which could abstractly sell higher. Why keep a book which sells 18k on the shelf when you could have one which sells more?
All those factors interacting are amongst the reasons why the bar is higher for a monthly audience at the big two.
Equally, it would be a mistake to confuse the audience of a book with its monthly sales. As said above, you would have to include a trades for that, and the trades are not a small thing.
On a personal level, we’ve sold over 50,000 copies of the first WicDiv Trade. Last I looked at Amazon’s stats we were selling about 1000 a month via book shops alone (i.e. not including comic shops, which is usually more.) The orders for 12 were 22k. The initial orders of the second trade are up 33% on the first trade. Realistically, we were hoping to stabilise at around 13k, and we’d have been enormously happy with that, even if we weren’t selling trades. Which we are. WicDiv is a ludicrous success, by far the biggest thing in our entire career. And thanks to everyone’s support in achieving that.
The idea that there’s articles being written which try and frame discussion of indie comics like this - and it’s an approach which is picked up by comment threads - is entirely counter to the reality of the comics industry.
Almost 200 covers after the beginning of my journey, here are 10 of my favorite comic books covers from these last 5 years. It’s been a rollercoaster, really, and an honor.
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Brandon Graham AND Gene Ha? Bonkerstown! go donate and make this happen!Not every artist from whom I’ve taken inspiration is from my childhood! Brandon Graham aka royalboiler (King City, Multiple Warheads, Prophet) is 8 years younger than me but blows me away with his visual invention and style. Yep, I totally swiped that giant monster from his book Multiple Warheads.
Brandon is the guy who makes Gene Ha say, “How can anyone jam all that visual invention into a scene and still make the whole thing beautiful?” He’s also the Stretch Goal Artist #2 for my Mae comic Kickstarter! More of my thoughts about Brandon’s mind bending work at the link: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/geneha/mae-graphic-novel/posts/1217923
Two of my absolute favorites!
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Man cosplayers work fast #c2e2
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